The end of my career?

[Randy Orton]

Okay, here goes. First of all before I even start this, let me begin by saying that it wouldn't be worth even typing this if I didn't care about FCW. The fed that I began e-fedding in closed down after a good three year run, before I came here. The fed was like home. It was where I started, where I learned and where I won my first title. I honestly couldn't have seen myself fedding anywhere else. When I joined FCW it was just an experiment for me. I was less than half convinced I'd ever stick around. After seeing guys like Gimmick, I knew that this place had potential. I was treated with respect and not particularly busy elsewhere. In a way this place became like my new home. And when I actually start to care about a place, I voice my opinions. Will this be the end of my career? I guess we'll find out.

I will not be voting for the monthly awards again. Ever. I don't feel like people vote for who they really think deserves an award, rather what they think everyone one else will do. Pretty much every month of awards are identical, save a few minor changes. This month stung me particularly bad. I've never complained about not winning best RPer, because I don't think I'm the best RPer here. I also never vote for myself. But this month I did vote for myself and Gimmick in Best Feud/Storyline. I honestly felt we did the best job. Although I was a fan of "Volgur's Death" I felt Gimmick and I worked extra hard, even having to face each other in the end. Not that this is my most pressing concern as I'm not particularly selfish. I just find it annoying that I'm pretty sure a lot of people voted for the "Volgur" thing because he's the boss.

Like I said, I'm not too selfish, so I won't complain anymore about that. I'll just remove myself from participating in the future. Which brings me to my next point. I don't know if Kennedy is forced to do results by himself or what. All I know is that results are never extra special. I don't blame Kennedy if he is having to do it all by himself, maybe he needs some help. What I do know is that results are the payoff for hard work, and should be a little more exciting. If someone no-shows, screw them, type that they get squashed. But if two guys genuinely work hard, they deserve well written, well thought out RP's. Which brings me to my next point.

I can't even begin to explain how frustrating it is for me to read guys typing in the Anarchy Card thread, complaining to Kennedy about the match they are in. It's not Kennedy's job to handle your career, and progress your character. THAT'S YOUR JOB! Stop complaining and build a feud! General promos are for more than debuts and quick boredom promos. Use them to kick off a feud, or an alliance. Some kind of story. Case in point. Blade Lavigne. I like Blade Lavigne, but you will never move up without making the effort. No one who simply RPs for their match will ever be a mega star. Show the managers that you deserve to be a main eventer. Prove that you can do more than just wait to be placed in a match and show up. Watch wrestling on tv. Anybody you see is working toward something. Every character is progressing. No one is stagnant and just showing up for a match. Every time they step in front of the camera it is to help them move along to where ever it is they're going. If you're not trying to do anything other than get put on the card and RP, you're not going to impress anyone. You will not move up.

Look at Gimmick, Parise, Robin, Storm. These guys are always doing something to further develop their characters. You wanna be where they are? Follow their lead. Get yourself noticed! This place is only gonna be as good as the talent. I don't see any reason why anybody that regularly RPs on here couldn't be a main eventer. I haven't seen one guy here who just couldn't do it. I mean if you're having fun, then that's what it's all about. If you want bigger and better things, make the effort. It's up to everybody here to make the PPV's amazing, not just four or five guys. And in a side note, unless you've ever been a quarter as good as Jimmy Gimmick, never reply to one of his threads and say "not your best work."

I hope this isn't the end of me here, but I believe in this place and I'm not gonna keep silent about the changes that need to be made to keep it afloat. I knew two brands was a mistake. Not to be smug, but I knew it. Had we been going strong for a few more months, maybe I would've thought different. But I've seen it a million times. New fed, new eager members, open titles. As soon as the titles are won and people start losing, boom!, half of them will be gone. I knew it, and I said it. That's why you've gotta give The Boss your honest opinions, don't just blindly say what you think he wants to hear. Everybody said "yeah let's do it." Fail.

A fed can go from active to dead in a month. I've seen it happen. Look how good we've done with less than extraordinary graphics, and no interactive home page. It's uncanny. Because everyone cares about this place and wants it to succeed, so we vote. And we vote. Let's do more. Let's have every single member of this roster involved in some kind of story. Let Kennedy do results, or some of us can even offer to help. Either way stop making him have to look for things to do with you. PM someone. If you see someone who doesn't look busy, PM THEM! See if they wanna do an angle with you. If they do and it's good, I promise you will move up, even the loser will be all the better after a good feud that keeps people interested.

I guess that's it for my rant. It should be noted that I harbor no ill will toward anyone, nor was this an attempt to slander anyone. If you're reading this, it's up to you to make this place better, not someone else.

[William McConnell]

Sept 9, 2009 14:15:29 GMT -5 Randy Orton said:

I will not be voting for the monthly awards again. Ever. I don't feel like people vote for who they really think deserves an award, rather what they think everyone one else will do. Pretty much every month of awards are identical, save a few minor changes. This month stung me particularly bad. I've never complained about not winning best RPer, because I don't think I'm the best RPer here. I also never vote for myself. But this month I did vote for myself and Gimmick in Best Feud/Storyline. I honestly felt we did the best job. Although I was a fan of "Volgur's Death" I felt Gimmick and I worked extra hard, even having to face each other in the end. Not that this is my most pressing concern as I'm not particularly selfish. I just find it annoying that I'm pretty sure a lot of people voted for the "Volgur" thing because he's the boss.

I'll be honest. I don't think monthly awards are anything special. Maybe awards every six months? Definitely year end awards, but anymore than that and it looks cluttered and it gets boring.

Like I said, I'm not too selfish, so I won't complain anymore about that. I'll just remove myself from participating in the future. Which brings me to my next point. I don't know if Kennedy is forced to do results by himself or what. All I know is that results are never extra special. I don't blame Kennedy if he is having to do it all by himself, maybe he needs some help. What I do know is that results are the payoff for hard work, and should be a little more exciting. If someone no-shows, screw them, type that they get squashed. But if two guys genuinely work hard, they deserve well written, well thought out RP's. Which brings me to my next point.

You're absolutely write. The results should be what maps everything out. All your hard work put into action. Go take a look at archive.ewazone.com/ and look at every result on there. All typed out like a match. 10 years of it.

Now, I'm not saying we should expect Kennedy to write a shitload for every result. People should wanna chip in and help him out. It all depends on how Kennedy feels about it if he changes things up. With that said, that may change the way the cards are booked. In the example I showed above, its typical two cards then a PPV because results normally take 2 to 3 days to get done. That usually amounts to three 7 day+ rping periods.

Also, sorry if that seemed like a giant shill, not my intention, just giving an example.

I can't even begin to explain how frustrating it is for me to read guys typing in the Anarchy Card thread, complaining to Kennedy about the match they are in. It's not Kennedy's job to handle your career, and progress your character. THAT'S YOUR JOB! Stop complaining and build a feud! General promos are for more than debuts and quick boredom promos. Use them to kick off a feud, or an alliance. Some kind of story. Case in point. Blade Lavigne. I like Blade Lavigne, but you will never move up without making the effort. No one who simply RPs for their match will ever be a mega star. Show the managers that you deserve to be a main eventer. Prove that you can do more than just wait to be placed in a match and show up. Watch wrestling on tv. Anybody you see is working toward something. Every character is progressing. No one is stagnant and just showing up for a match. Every time they step in front of the camera it is to help them move along to where ever it is they're going. If you're not trying to do anything other than get put on the card and RP, you're not going to impress anyone. You will not move up.

I agree and disagree. Everyone should wanna get involve. Let Kennedy know what you wanna do. However this does not mean you need to be in some high profile fued every month. Just put your character in a direction. Let intentions be known. You wanna go for a belt? Have your character show he wants to go for that title shot.

Look at Gimmick, Parise, Robin, Storm. These guys are always doing something to further develop their characters. You wanna be where they are? Follow their lead. Get yourself noticed! This place is only gonna be as good as the talent. I don't see any reason why anybody that regularly RPs on here couldn't be a main eventer. I haven't seen one guy here who just couldn't do it. I mean if you're having fun, then that's what it's all about. If you want bigger and better things, make the effort. It's up to everybody here to make the PPV's amazing, not just four or five guys. And in a side note, unless you've ever been a quarter as good as Jimmy Gimmick, never reply to one of his threads and say "not your best work."

Again, I agree and disagree. Its not something you need to constantly do, but knowing when to is a major asset to your identity. Sometimes all you need is an opponent to RP against to get across development and sometimes you need something more.

A fed can go from active to dead in a month. I've seen it happen. Look how good we've done with less than extraordinary graphics, and no interactive home page. It's uncanny. Because everyone cares about this place and wants it to succeed, so we vote. And we vote. Let's do more. Let's have every single member of this roster involved in some kind of story. Let Kennedy do results, or some of us can even offer to help. Either way stop making him have to look for things to do with you. PM someone. If you see someone who doesn't look busy, PM THEM! See if they wanna do an angle with you. If they do and it's good, I promise you will move up, even the loser will be all the better after a good feud that keeps people interested.

I don't think you need all the extra flash but it helps. This is my first fed other than the EWA in 10 years. I chose the FCW over everything else to get my feet wet again with and because of that I wanna see it go somewhere. I see some enthusiastic guys and this place could really flourish if they can keep it around. A problem I see though is alot of people join then never show up again. Thats not necessarily FCW's fault, though. People are fickle.

I know I've not been here long, but I hope my own experience can get something across.

[Randy Orton]

William, your feedback is appreciated, and past experience is something we can all take something from. I'll highlight only the points you agreed/disagreed with to further clarify. Sometimes when posting something so long, it's easy to leave things out or fail to go into enough detail.

Quote:I can't even begin to explain how frustrating it is for me to read guys typing in the Anarchy Card thread, complaining to Kennedy about the match they are in. It's not Kennedy's job to handle your career, and progress your character. THAT'S YOUR JOB! Stop complaining and build a feud! General promos are for more than debuts and quick boredom promos. Use them to kick off a feud, or an alliance. Some kind of story. Case in point. Blade Lavigne. I like Blade Lavigne, but you will never move up without making the effort. No one who simply RPs for their match will ever be a mega star. Show the managers that you deserve to be a main eventer. Prove that you can do more than just wait to be placed in a match and show up. Watch wrestling on tv. Anybody you see is working toward something. Every character is progressing. No one is stagnant and just showing up for a match. Every time they step in front of the camera it is to help them move along to where ever it is they're going. If you're not trying to do anything other than get put on the card and RP, you're not going to impress anyone. You will not move up.


I agree and disagree. Everyone should wanna get involve. Let Kennedy know what you wanna do. However this does not mean you need to be in some high profile fued every month. Just put your character in a direction. Let intentions be known. You wanna go for a belt? Have your character show he wants to go for that title shot.

Of course one does not have to be involved in a feud every month, rather as I mentioned and you expounded on here, a character should be "doing something." Simply receiving a match and RPing isn't enough to be successful.

Quote:Look at Gimmick, Parise, Robin, Storm. These guys are always doing something to further develop their characters. You wanna be where they are? Follow their lead. Get yourself noticed! This place is only gonna be as good as the talent. I don't see any reason why anybody that regularly RPs on here couldn't be a main eventer. I haven't seen one guy here who just couldn't do it. I mean if you're having fun, then that's what it's all about. If you want bigger and better things, make the effort. It's up to everybody here to make the PPV's amazing, not just four or five guys. And in a side note, unless you've ever been a quarter as good as Jimmy Gimmick, never reply to one of his threads and say "not your best work."


Again, I agree and disagree. Its not something you need to constantly do, but knowing when to is a major asset to your identity. Sometimes all you need is an opponent to RP against to get across development and sometimes you need something more.

Here I must go back to what I originally said. While one can do something to develop a character simply by RPing for a match, there is more to it. What I was trying to refer to are the people who do nothing more than wait for the match and then put there character in a situation to discuss the match. This is never acceptable. There must be more. It can work occasionally, but there should always be something going on outside the match you are preparing for. Whether that is a feud or a series of revealing general RPs. Seldom in wrestling does a character simply take it match by match. Generally never when actually having some success.

As far as the extra flash, I myself have never been heavy on cosmetics. There are though, those people who look for an elaborate home page, and see anything with their character that they didn't write as a reward. For instance just a small article with news on their latest win, or feud.

In the end it's all about improving the fed. It would be nice to have people NOT show up only to never be heard from again.

[The Boss]

Being the owner I feel obligated to respond here, although most of the topics are things that I have dealt with in the past.

First the awards, I knew they were going to spark controversy when I brought them in, I didn't expect people to boycott them but I wasn't entirely suprised. They are only meant to be for fun, and to give people a sense of accomplishment for what they've done. As for the best feud/storyline situation I will say I did consider the possibility that people would vote for the death of Voglur to suck up, on the other hand it's a confidential vote. Furthermore, "The Death of Voglur" was much less a feud than it was a storyline, a storyline that was almost entirely Jimmy Gimmick's. I considered the storyline Gimmick's character development that transpired as a result of his conflict with Voglur, my own involvment was minimal.

Now awards I'm not too concerned about, the one thing that I find odd is the reaction by both prior posters to the match cards. Paticularly with the comments regarding and I'm paraphrasing 'results serve as a reward for hard work.' If you honestly think you need compensation for roleplaying than there's a problem, it's a hobby, a game: writing promos, developing characters, crafting storylines, it's supposed to be fun. You shouldn't need a payoff to keep going, and a much better payoff can be found in a climactic promo leading up to or following the final match of a feud(for example). In addition to that it is my experience that writing out a full match is pretty much a terrible idea. The reasons are as follows:

1) Ridiculously time consuming: we went with the abbreviated version for a reason, I ran a fed that used full length matches, and to keep things brief there's a reason I'm refering to it in the past tense.

2) No one reads them: How many people are honestly going to sit through and go over pages and pages of entire shows, myself and Kennedy have written shows up to roughly 40 pages long, one or two people read them all tops.

3) Unresonable: Back to the time consuming thing, we're obviously not going to write out every single match that occurs, so what do we do for the one's no one cares about? And God help me if someone says Zeus pro.

Lastly, I couldn't agree more, and I can't stress how important it is for people to find their own feuds and matches. I really am no fan of people half assing it for 3 weeks then posting something in the vein of "can i have a spot on the ppv." And people make your characters interesting, you can do it even if your using a real wrestler, you don't need to stick to what they do on tv, just please make people feel some emotion towards them any emotion as long as it's not boredom.

In conclusion, I don't really see why you'd consider this a potential end of your career seeing as the first thing you mentioned were the monthly awards which really aren't a big deal, coincicdently the topic you'd already made your opinion towards clear. I don't mean to be offensive or anything, just trying to be clear, nothing hear really seems like quiting worthy material.

On a couple of sidenotes here: yes in hind site the brand split was a bad idea, and unfortuantly the majority of the members also stood behind it, on the bright side I think we've learned from my mistakes. Also Kennedy is the only one who does the results/match card as of right now. As for your news/articles suggestion I would be glad to have members volunteer for such a role.

If I missed any topic please let me know.

-The Boss/R.M.V.

[Luminous Robin]

I'd be more than happy to write the shows if they're a burden. I enjoy match writing more than promos, to be honest.

[Blade LaVigne]

I can also write matches. Orton, I see your point. I know I haven't been really trying and expecting to win everyweek. I planned on making a big come around.

[Randy Orton]

Yeah Robin, I think at the very least anyone interested in helping write results should get with Kennedy. I would, but with my sketchy computer time, I'm afraid I'd let everyone down. As I said results are a reward for hard work.

To The Boss, No I don't think you left anything out. You got all your points across. While I never did what I do for an Award, I wasn't fully aware that no one around here took them seriously. All the more reason for a boycott.

I must say, we are on opposite sides of one argument for sure. Results are a reward. That's been universal in every fed I've been involved in. Sure it is for fun, I've always said that. A large part of the fun is seeing how you do in results, after working your ass of in an angle or feud. I fail to see the logic of working extra hard on a storyline, and being content. I've never heard of it. People will always look to results for that last bit of satisfaction.

As far as no one reading long results, perhaps it is the membership that's to blame on that. The fed where I was brought up, we had 100 active RPers, and everyone of them was totally involved. There were very few lazy excuse makers. And if they were the least bit lazy, then their results showed it. A fed should strive to get active, intelligent, participating members, and I can assure you that would not be a problem.

I've worked with a people who were very professional, and while some of them had reputations as arrogant and overly competitive, it was much more fun. Why? Because everyone was so intellectual with their work. Everything you saw was either good enough to go on television, or too innovative even for tv. That kind of membership is what separates the epic feds from those that struggle.

[Alexander "The Great" Parise]

I don't think I can definitively take a side in this one. I agree, a well written match is always something that I could look forward to, but I know from experience how time-consuming it really is. Sure, we could all gather round and chip in, but you don't want to be left hanging if someone misses a deadline, then everything would be gone to hell. Sure, at times we think we'll be able to do write the results, but we never really know what we have coming up, one day we could have a full weekend off and the next you're computer could crash, or you could be working 24/7. I agree if someone didn't roleplay they shouldn't have a good description posted, but most of the stuff that Kennedy writes already is respectably harsh. Right now we can't make promises we can't keep, but if someone was to say they would write results from now on and then take off for a week or two and leave that job to someone else they would have to write results, not only to live up to what the previous one was doing but to keep people from losing interest.

I completely agree that people have to start developing their characters and take charge once in a while, let someone, anyone, know that you're up for getting involved in something big, that is the best way to turn things around if you aren't doing to well. Since FCW started I've had a plan, granted I never really expected to win the World Title, but I quickly altered my plans, letting Kennedy, The Boss or whoever else was involved in on what I was planning. So people, we're really slacking, and I know right now is a rough patch, but soon, and yes, even with school, we should all be able to put forth a good effort, I don't mean putting up top-notch roleplays every day, I just mean with storylines, if you're working an angle well it won't require you to do rp's so often.

At FCW we've never really prided ourselves on being the best fed out there, but quite frankly I think we have some of the most talented roleplayers out there. Sure, we don't have big numbers, but we're doing alright for ourselves, but it's clear people treat this as something that's off to the side, and they'll just go on here and there when they have 10 minutes of free time on their hands. I mean people choose a lot of things over this, I'm not just talking school or sports, I'm talking other things they do for fun. If everyone isn't going to put forth their best performance, I don't see why Kennedy should divulge them and write full length matches.

Randy I do understand where you're coming from on all the things you've said, I respect you and your work very much, and if you want full results you definitely deserve them, (keep in mind what I'm saying is solely based on whether or not Kennedy wants to write the matches) but we can't force him to do anything, and really we look forward to seeing how things look, so we don't really want to write them ourselves, then it's just more time that potentially could be for nothing. I realize you never said anything about making Kennedy or anyone else do this, but I think it would he hard to find someone talented that would want to write results every week.

Now; the monthly awards. I can't remember the last time I voted in these. But even if it isn't the same winners, which most of the time it is, the people who are nominated are always the same. One of the only times I was surprised was when I won best roleplayer, or when I was nominated for best heel, really I don't think we should do these every month anymore, which I know was already stated, but clearly no one cares anymore. I mean we really have about 20 members, and what, 10 people voted? We need to make these exciting again, or we should just get rid of them.

I think we could use a change around here, but you never know when things will turn around. I certainly hope you do stick around, this place wouldn't be the same without you. But we all have our roles to play, and I do still believe in this place, and I think we can really make this place great. We need to start focusing less about out of character stuff and more about roleplaying. This place should be fun, roleplaying should be fun. When I'm not in the mood to do a roleplay but I know I have to it never turns out as good as I would like it to, that's why we all need to find something to motivate ourselves. Whether it be a rivalry or a new partner, a a gimmick change, just find something that really makes you want to stick around.

[Jason Evans]

I would be glad to right out the matches because I always write matches. Whether it be on my freinds feds, my feds, or just some strabgers fed, I enjoy the art of writing out matches. Randy, you are personally, my hero man. I push myself to attempt to RP like you. If you leave, that screws me because you have won so many awards and you are a true freind. I may have only known you for atleast three months and I know we have became at least allies. Maybe friends but, again, you are the reason I am always pushing myself to RP like you.

I always read you promo's atleast three times through and then try to RP like your length. Blade, don't take any of this to offense because, you are one of the nicest guys here and are a good guy and I can tell you really like this place, as does everybody else.

I love FCW and I love (Well, you get my drift.) everybody here. I will RP here as long as I can and I will always, ALWAAAAYS give it my all.